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of mr. panetta, i feel i have been jerked around by every cia director. >> i love these groups that are criticizing us saying, well, they're fake conservatives. >> this newspaper article about karl rove's intentions is only serving to unite the tea party. >> you made some mistakes but everybody makes mistakes. >> sure. >> heard anything on nbc about the drones? >> not yet. >> tonight we have exclusive reporting on the contents of that white paper. joining us now is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. ♪ >>> we start on a day where up to three feet of snow and winds nearing hurricane strength are expected to batter the northeast, and we'll have much more on that throughout the broadcast. but we begin in washington where we are awaiting the president to speak at a farewell tribute to defense secretary leon panetta in washington. it's a ceremony marked by a 19-gun salute, an inspection of troops, and all accompanied by the united states pershing zone army band. general martin dempsey spoke first and he will soon be followed by the president. all to hono
to block chuck hagel, the current defense secretary leon panetta is on his way out. they gave mr. panetta his sendoff on saturday, though it looks like he'll probably be in charge for another week or so. his time has been a period of lasting change for the u.s. military. after the end of the iraq war, he has overseen the beginning of the end of america's longest war ever in afghanistan. the clinton era policy of "don't ask, don't tell" ended under leon panetta's watch, at his recommendation that the nation allow openly gay people to be a part of the military. last year secretary panetta took steps to reform the way the military deals with sexual assault in its ranks, going as far in those reforms as he could without help from congress. he also opened new assignments in the military, new roles for female soldiers. last month, with the end of his term near, he proclaimed an end to the ban on women in combat, full stop. well, today in a new memo, the outgoing defense secretary, leon panetta, made another historic change, saying that discrimination based on sexual orientation no longer has a
as outgoing secretary leon panetta and martin dempsey were testifying before the senate armed services committee. they were asked about the administration's decision not to arm the syrian rebels in their effort to overthrow the assad regime. the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision in the end. but the answer to your question is yes. >> for both of you? >> yes. >> "the wall street journal" says the white house was concerned about which rebels could be trusted with arms. was also worried about the risk of drawing the united states into another military conflict. but it was questions over benghazi that led to the most heated moments with secretary pan
there or leon panetta may be forced to go there steed. yesterday, the senate began the odd procedural dance that is required for cloture, the process for ending senate debate. >> nomination, department of defense, charles timothy hagel of nebraska, to be secretary of defense. >> mr. president, i sent a cloture motion to the desk and ask the clerk to report. this is the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been filibustered. what a shame. >> the requirement of 60 votes for a cabinet appointee is almost unprecedented. only two cabinet appointments have ever been filibustered, according to the senate historian's office. verity in 1978 and dirk kempthorne. no appointment has ever been successfully filibustered, by the way. yesterday, senator jim inhofe, ranking member of the armed services committee, claimed republicans weren't filibust filibustering. really, they're not. >> this is not a filibuster. i keep getting stopped by people out in the hall, oh, you're going to filibuster, who's going to filibuster? it's not a filibuster. all
on the senate side that leon panetta and general dempsey both said that he and hillary clinton had argued last season for arming the rebels in syria. more than 60,000 people have died, but that others on the foreign policy team pushed back, and the president made a decision not to. >> yeah. let me just say on this one i may be inclined toward the president. i'm not certain who those -- who would get those weapons. i don't want to fwet into too much detail. i'm also on the intelligence committee, but i'm -- i am not certain that those weapons wouldn't fall into the wrong hands, and that's a real problem we've had in syria. maybe more should be done earlier on to get better control of the rebels, but now to me there's too many unsavory pro-islamist elements among those rebels, so i am not certain that they should be given weapons. that's a tough call, and i'm not close enough to it on the ground, but from what i do know, i'm very leary about giving any weapons because they could end up in the hands of islamists. >> congressman peter king, it's great to have your perspective, and thank you and go
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leon panetta. >> the second best valentine's present would be to allow sylvia and i to get the hell out of town. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell life in washington. the national rifle association has now launched a counter offensive against the president's emotional appeal at the state of the union. to put an end to gun violence. in a column published yesterday on a conservative web blog wayne lapierre from the nra announced a four-year communications and resistance movement, his words, to block what he calls a siege from the enemies of the second amendment. in washington to hear the president's appeal we'll be talking to mark kelly moments from now, but, first, to that breaking muse out of south africa rsh olympic sprinter oscar pistorius made sporting history by becoming the first track athlete double amputee to compete in the games, but today the blade runner as he is known, is charged with murder after his girlfriend was fatally shot in his home in pretoria, south africa. joining me -- for rock center. mary, this is -- this could not be more shocking. tell us what we know about the
know, when did he know it, and did he go to bed while leon panetta was up all night? that just seems so extraneous. it's just using chuck hagel as hostage for the lerchlg because wasn't even around during benghazi. >> it certainly seems -- andrea, i guess i'm skeptical of the idea that in the week's time they really need time to review what chuck hagel has said in the past, his speeches. he know chuck hagel has said controversial things about iran and we know he has said controversial things about homo sexuality that he has since apologized for. this delay seems to me maybe i'm being too cynical and political that that's kind of my thing, but this delay seems to be about the opponents of chuck hagel who do not think he is suited to be secretary of defense want one more week to see if there is anything that comes out that can be disqualifying for him. if there isn't -- if you are hagel, you never want to be twisting in the wind for another week while you kind of sit silently and europe independents do everything they can to kind of find something disqualifying? >> susan rice, the nominee
. >> with the exception of mr. panetta, i feel like i've been jerked around by every cia director. >> 11 united states senators asked to see any and all legal opinions but when i went to read the opinions this morning, it is not clear that that is what was provided. >> we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives, when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. >> they won't even tell congress what countries we are killing children in. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone strikes. one thing politico is reporting in the article that they have on this and, of course, the two hearings we were watching yesterday, one being
a deferment. >> and chuck hagel, if he's confirmed will attend a nato conference. and if not, panetta will have to step in there. >> and that's the pressure that's going to have to come to bear for the republicans, at the end of the day, this has real impact if the president doesn't have a confirmed secretary of defense. >> some of the republicans have tried to, i don't know if it's splitting hairs or if they're embarrassed by the use of the word filibuster, but they're attempting to describe this as something other than that. >> this is not a filibuster, i keep getting stopped by people out in the hall, oh, we're going to filibuster, who's going to filibuster. it's not a filibuster, all they have to do is have a 60-vote margin. >> so rachel, harry reed says it is a filibuster, jim inhoff says it is not. >> and that reflects the complicated politics going on right here. this is a troubled nomination for the white house, it has been from the start. there's no natural support out there for chuck hagel, he's a republican, but a lot of republicans feel he's a republican in name only. they
and senators shared their frustrationses. >> with the exception of mr. panetta, i feel i've been drug around by every director. >> 11 united states senators asked to see any and all legal opinions, but when i went to read the opinions this morning, it is not clear that that is what was provided. >> do you happen to know the reason why our staff are not permitted when we are permitted? >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury and the executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions and the laws of this country. >> for the first time dianne feinstein said publicly that the committee will consider the creation of a special court to oversee evidence against americans who might be targeted by strikes. brennan was also pressed about his evolving answers on enhanced int interrogation methods. >> what steps did you take to stop cia from moving to these techniques you now say you found objectionable at the time? >> i did not take steps to stop the cia's use of those techniques. i was not in the chain of command of that program. i expressed my personal objections and view
year? does leon panetta stay on as defense secretary even after he's gone through the motions of stepping down and going back home? >> yes. we've had all of these farewell speeches. the most recent today. then he went off with his wife sylvia for a valentine's dinner and was hoping that he wouldn't have to come back. but now he will come back because the senate is in recess. you know, when these things happen, they don't change their plans for recess. and so he, leon panetta, is going to have to leave the delegation and represent the united states at nato for the big meeting of the nato defense ministers. this was to be the debut performance of chuck hagel on the world stage. that is only the first impediment to hagel by this delay and what they claim -- the republicans claim is not a filibuster but by any stretch of the imagination when you have a cloture vote and they go into recess, that smells like a filibuster. >> have you heard anything about how people inside the defense department and even the state department, the other national security major agencies, how they're re
leon panetta. boy, a blistering attack against congress. can't wait to talk to jane about that. also, john mccain's changing his tune. we praised him yesterday. so he had to reverse course, i guess. so now he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, brea
're comfortable with panetta stepping down and the country not having a secretary of defense? >> well, that's a decision by leon panetta. i'm not comfortable with chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we've asked legitimate questions for information and there's no reason to have to rush the vote through tonight or tomorrow. >> but it is coming, though. because a cloture file was submitted by harry reid. do you think -- you said that the democrats are embarrassed, but is it republicans are embarrassed to support one of their own because chuck hagel did not support the iraq surge? is this basically trying to settle an old score? >> well, i don't see it that way at all. i think you took a look at chuck hagel's entire history in terms of his opposition to sanctions against iran. different things he's written about disarmament including unilateral disarmament. i think he's the wrong person for this position. and anybody that watched the hearngs in just the past week knows that this man is not prepared to be secretary of defense in terms of making sure we as a nation remain strong and able to defe
the british military and the french think when leon panetta turns up? >> well, they like leon panetta but what they will think is what they have been thinking for the last 2 1/2 years, is that the republican party in the united states has gone off the rails and is obstructing the normal order of business of the world's only super power, and this is the first time, martin, in the history of the defense department going back to the 1940s that there's been a filibuster of a nominee to head that department and i would wager that if it went to its predecessor that the department of war going all the way back in american history, this has never been done. these people are out of control in their obstructionism and the only thing to do is fight them all the way, and there are new tools that the president unveiled in his state of the union to do that with. the president should go to enlisted personnel, retired enlisted personnel all over the united states and say, chuck hagel is the first of yours to be nominated for secretary of defense. they want to prevent a vote? you deserve a vote as an enlisted
and to the happy grand parents. >>> secretary of defense leon panetta is still on the job, attending ceremonies and waiting for members to confirm his successor chuck hagel. >> the second best valvalentine day present would be allow us to get out of town. >> president obama went to georgia to promote his education agenda and spent some quality time with preschoolers. he was also thinking about valentine's day. >> i can't imagine a more romantic way to spend valentine's day. actually, michelle says hello. she made me promise that i would get back in time for our date tonight. that's important. that's important. i will got a gift. got the flowers. the flowers are a little easier because i got this rose garden. >> even with the children in georgia, the president still had washington grid lock on his mind. >> and that whole plane, with others, a trade that we could use more in washington. maybe we need -- maybe we need to bring the teachers up. you know? every once in a while have some quiet time. time-out. >> that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> here's your weather with bill karins.
to talk to you about charlie's family, but, first, your reaction to he leon panetta and this major announcement. >> well, thomas, thank you. you know, secretary panetta has now done just about all they can do. there are a couple of issues that remain to be resolved, but for the most part he has now done all that the pentagon can do to offer benefits to same-sex military families. what stands in the way today is the defense of marriage act. that's what's preventing charlie's wife, karen, and their daughter from receiving a substantive amount of benefits that would make their lives so much easier going forward. >> how are karen and the family doing? charlie was valiant in her battle against breast cancer, and also valiant on the frontlines of marriage equality and the battle for service members to get the equity that they deserve. how are they holding up, and have they heard this news from you? >> she was a hero. you're right. thomas, she was a hero in the truest sense of the word. she gave the last fullmer of her devotion to this fight for equality, for her own family first. karen a
on this committee for more than ten years. and with the exception of mr. panetta i feel i've been jerked around by every cia director. i've either been misled, misrepresented, had to pull information out, often at the most minimal kind of way. from tenet with his little aluminum rods to tell us that we had weapons of mass destruction in iraq to porter goss not forthcoming. can i have your word that you're going to be very forthcoming with this committee to speak truth to power, to speak truth about power, and even when it's uncomfortable where we're going to have to probe in a way that is not an easy way to go? >> admit it. there is no u.s. senator you would rather have a beer with than barbara mikulski. admit it. i don't even know if she drinks beer. but if i had to pick one senator based on today, i would pick her. senator, if thochbds you and you don't drink oregon if you find that offensive in any way, i'm sorry. you saw senator mikulski gesturing with her hands there saying george tenet brought in little aluminum tubes to make the case about saddam hussein's supposed centrifuge tubes durin
today. >>> up next, the hold-up over hagel. defense secretary leon panetta has to stay on the job until chuck hagel is confirmed by the senate. are republicans singling hagel out by delaying the vote? >> with the tradition of the senate, u.s. senators do not usually act this way at all. >> we'll get the latest. >>> and but first there's a lot going on today. here's things we thought you should know. karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good han
benghazi. i mean, apart from hillary clinton, leon panetta, chuck hagel, john brennan, and the president, of course. in fact, republicans would be wise to heed the words of the president as he spoke to the sergeant. >> there are many lessons, one of them is that our troops should never, ever be put in a position where they have to defend the indefensiblndefensib. >> let's get to our panel. julian epstein is a democratic strategist and ryan grim is the d.c. grbureau chief for "the huffington post." national review is reporting the ranking member on the armed services committee will put a hold on the nomination but our mike viqueira is reporting we could have a full floor vote on hagel's nomination wednesday or thursday. what do you think the outcome will be? >> i think the handwriting is on the wall here. this issue is gone. i think most of washington has looked at this and said, there's nothing to stop hagel. his confirmation is all but assured -- >> you just heard lindsey graham say no confirmation without information. >> but there's not enough republicans who agree to a filibuster so t
the benghazi attack. hagel remains in limbo, as does defense secretary leon panetta, who isn't exactly sure when he will be able to return to his california walnut groves. >> this is, i believe, my final press conference here at the pentagon briefing room. there are moments when i thought i was part of the last act of an italian opera. you're not sure exactly when it would end, and when the fat lady would sing. >> for now the only certainty is much more congressional uncertainty. joy, does leon panetta need a shirt that says "i survived a chuck hagel filibuster and all i got was this lousy t-shirt?" just when he thinks it can't get worse, it's actually seemingly gotten worse. >> this is insane. i mean, last night i went through, and i was looking at the george w. bush cabinet nominations. none of which were filibustered. just for fun. just because i knew we were talking about it. his second term cabinet nominations, the majority went through by voice vote. they didn't even bother to take a poll of the senate. people like michael mukaze sailed through and alberto gonzalez, who went to the be
them more information. they got testimony from secretary panetta and the joint chiefs chair dempsey, and they believe that added to what the public knows about benghazi and was the right way to go about this. when brennan comes up to be cia director expect another one of these circumstances but for tonight this is a setback for hagel. it's part of the process. it doesn't derail it but it's a difficult day for chuck hagel. >> kristin welker, are you hearing any reaction from the white house? >> reporter: i can tell you they're working on a statement, martin, right now. they do still continue to stand by their belief that he will ultimately be confirmed. to your point this is a blow to the white house. the president's initial pick for secretary of defense, susan rice, was derailed by the republicans, so this certainly is unwelcome news. >> kristin welker and kelly o'donnell, thank you so much. thank you for watching. chris matthews picks things up right now. >>> the war on chuck hagel. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight
the fall-out for this is going to be leon panetta having to spend an extra ten days away from his vineyard in sonoma. >> i believe it's a wall nut grove. >> i'm sorry. walnuts stwloosh that in and of itself could be catastrophic for leon panetta. >> i guess i disagree on the thesis of our open here. once this happens, radika, and i would love to get your thoughts, these are these threshold that is no one can ever turn back from. now it is going to be par for the course for sort of the party in minority to hold up cabinet picks. i mean, nothing -- it was one thing when it was judicial picks. it was another thing when it was low level staff picks. now it's the cabinet -- the cabinet is not immune from political football, basically. >> it did occur to me given the news of the week that maybe it would be better if ten people went into a room, sent up white smoke and suddenly we had a new secretary because part of the damage is watching this theater, which as you have said earlier, the american public is actually not that interested in. i mean, these aren't hillary clinton hearings. you know, i
panetta, said good-bye to his staff at the pentagon. >> it has been the honor of my life to have served with you in this position as secretary of defense. it's been the greatest privilege i've had in my almost 50 years of public service to be able to represent the people of this department, to our friends and to our partners around the world. >> chuck hagel, the man tapped the to secede panetta at the pentagon, will face his first major hurdle today. the senate armed services committee will vote today on his nomination. senate majority leader harry reid is pressing for a full senate vote either tomorrow or thursday. [ female announcer ] are you really getting salon quality... or settling for wannabes? stop compromising! new vidal sassoon pro series. care and styling from the original salon genius, created to let you have it all at an affordable price. new vidal sassoon lets you say no to compromise and yes to very shiny... very silky... very sexy... very you. it's salon genius in a bottle! now in your store. new vidal sassoon pro series. salon genius. brilliantly priced. that's a good t
in benghazi. >>> leon panetta minced few words but what is most likely the last press briefing on the job. with the threat of a march 1st sequester looming, he lashed out at congress. he thinks they could be crippling with price cuts. >> oftentimes i feel luke i don't have a full partnership with my former colleagues on the hill in trying to do what's right for this country. we need to find solutions. we can't just sit here and. [ beep ] we can't just sit here and complain. we can't just sit here and blame others. we can't just sit here and point fen finger at each other. we have to solve problems that we're facing. this country is facing real threats in the world. we can't do this alone. we've got to do this with a full partnership of the congress in both houses of the congress. >> that's the way to go out with a beep on your last press conference. >>> republican members of congress from paul ryan to roy blunt predicted the sequester will not ab voided. >>> now an update on that crippled cruise ship whose return home has been anything but triumphant. a power failure left it stranded. nex
and veterans' benefits, and social security and medicare, but medicaid part d would not. and leon panetta said it could challenge all power. >> i think that clearly i would like to hear something about trying to figure out a way to avoid the se kwquester on the budget which i believe is going to be catastrophic. >> the military has been positioning for months to deal with the cuts, and the d.o.d. is looking to the furloughs for civilians and calling for a freeze on all civilian hiring and slash 18 billion, the military plans to put off training for 3/4 of the force. to make up a $12.4 billion shortfall, the air force may cut off flying and the navy is preparing to ground the blue angels this year, and the plans to send more troops to the gulf will be put on hold, and they insist there will be no cuts in the war already taking place. and this could slow growth by 1.5% this year, and becoming essentially a drag on the economy. joining us is the former u.s. comptroller, and i know, david, your views of what to get done are well known, but the sequester, the point is to bring both parties together
of congress, leaders from across our armed forces including secretary of defense leon panetta, chairman of the joints chiefs of staff marty dempsey, army secretary and army chief of staff genere ordearo. we are joined by iron horse soldiers. and members of the medal of honor society who today welcome you in to their ranks. now, despite all of this attention, you may already have a sense that clint is a pretty humble guy. we just spent sometime together in the oval office. he grew up in lake city, california. population less than 100. we welcomed his family including mom and dad tish and gary. clint, i hope he doesn't mind, he shared that clint was actually born at home. these days clint works in the oil feels of north dakota. he is a man of faith and after more than a decade in uniform, he says the thing he looks forward to the most is just being a husband and a father. in fact, this is not even the biggest event for clint this week. because tomorrow he and his wife tammy will celebrate their 13th wedding anniversary. clint and tammy, this is probably not the kind of intimate anniversar
with politico. good afternoon to both of you. >> hello. >> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta warned that the $85 billion in cuts would curtail american naval operations by a full third and could force furloughs of as many as 800,000 civilian workers. take a listen to what he said. >> it is difficult to believe, frankly, that congress would simply stand aside. stand aside, fail to make the decisions necessary to resolve this crisis and allow the defense economy, equality of life of america to be irreparably damaged. >> how damaging would these cuts be to our national security? >> it's a great question. the impact is going to be fairly dramatic to some of the employees, civilian employees of the pentagon and some other places. the 85 billion in cuts is through the rest of the fiscal year through september 30th and we're not even talking a full year. it's 50/50 between the defense cuts and the discretionary am doestic spending cuts and the warnings that we're hearing from experts on national security are very severe and vehement. they have told us that this will be a very significant d
, saying good-bye to secretary panetta to say this would be bad from the economy. i expect to see more of that coming up. >> the gop is willing to dig in its heels and bet the president will take the blame in the court of public opinion. charles krauthammer says the republicans finally have leverage, they should use it. the republicans need to reiterate that the sequester was the president's idea in the first place. do they run of risk of having this backfire? >> look at the polling, republicans end up on the shortened of the stick and get the blame. republicans in congress signed off on this deal, whether or not they were the ones that pushed for it in the end, they did agree to it and did vote for it. blame can be passed off to both sides on this issue, certainly, republicans doing their level best to try to put the blame on the president's lap. whether it succeeds, look, two, 2 1/2 weeks to go until the deadline. we'll see if they can gin up enough interest and blame. we're back to pointing fingers on who is to blame all of this. >> you think the democrats are convinced they have th
these automatic spending cuts, and now they're saying it would be so awful, there is leon panetta, the out going defense secretary saying it would hollow out the military. this is not how washington is supposed to operate, is it? >> no, it's not, and let me explain. when the president proposed a sequester, it was as an incentive to those of us in congress to work together on a bipartisan basis to solve these problems. it was supposed to be so awful that the super committee would finally reach a bipartisan agreement, but because they completely rejected revenue, it never happened. now we go through the fiscal cliff. we have imposed about roughly $700 billion in new taxes on the wealthiest americans over the next ten years. the president believes, and i agree, within tax reform, we can find additional savings over the next ten years, use that to move toward deficit reduction and still keep this economy moving forward. >> so, how do you gain this -- again, i go back to what the president said a year ago, that he was going to fight obstruction with action. what does he have to show for that? the one
ceremony at the pentagon with secretary of defense leon panetta. general dempsey there with her holding the award. the first time we have seen hillary clinton since she first left office. first time since her accident. and as you probably noticed in these pictures that we, again, just got in a moment ago, she's not wearing her corrective prism glasses. it appears as though she's able to return wearing her contact lenses. again, hillary clinton receiving an award there at the pentagon just moments ago. we'll continue to watch that and we'll have more right after the break. tely so this is a big deal, our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex office to hold packages for us. great job. [ applause ] thank you. and on a protocol note, i'd like to talk to tim hill about his tendency to use all caps in emails. [ shouting ] oh i'm sorry guys. ah sometimes the caps lock gets stuck on my keyboard. hey do you wanna get a drink later? [ male announcer ] hold packages at any fedex
in the hearings. the administration has been very clear. leon panetta when he was head of the cia was clear that it is torture and the u.s. does not engage in torture. while there is a continuation of policies related to drones and targeted assassinations, i don't think that there is necessarily a continuation of or ttorture. >> well, the debate we are not having is what are the contours of this, and if we want to win hearts and minds to go back to a vietnam plauz, what are thrase, the contours of this? will it expand and come back to hit us in a strong way? >> as someone who knows the pro and con intell and we send people into the area to make people suspicious of each other, and killed people in a domestic sphere, aed on the know the ugliness and the nastiness of that and the ways in which have sat over and against any american notice that we are not the kind of country that does that, but to get on the other side of co-intel to say i need that to be reflected in the 21st history. >> and to that, brennan was the architect of the waterboarding program or in the testimony he said he was awa
enforcement. and then 13% to defense spending. that is something that outgoing defense secretary leon panetta has said could impact military preparedness. that's sort of the approach. alex i have to tell you. as we have seen in the past, both sides are really digging in and we're seeing the same old sticking points. president obama making the case that he wants any package to include new revenues. they have put forth ideas that include rolling back tax breaks for big companies, large corporations, oil and gas companies. republicans say look, we just gave the president new taxes in the last budget battle. so they are saying that this should solely be worked on in terms of entitlement reform. so those are the sticking points. but alex i have to tell you, economists have warned that if the sequester does in fact kick into effect it could have a negative impact on the economy. >> kristen, looking ahead to the state-of-the-union speech, how much do you think we'll hear from the president on his fight to protect the middle class? >> reporter: i think that's going to be a big focus of president obam
." and it was one of the things that secretary panetta was talking about, richard, the impact, he said if this goes into effect, it won't be short term, and the ramifications would be deep, steep and devastating. is that a fair assessment, that it would be very hard to turn this around quickly? >> if you have to do all the sequester in a hurry, then yes, it's a real problem because it doesn't let the pentagon begin to plan and distribute, if you will, the cuts. but at the end of the day, whether it's defense spending, education spending, health spending, what always matters more than how much you spend is how you spend it. and so i'm not, at the end of the day, all that worried about how much we spend, whether it's on defense or anything else. you just want to have the time to make some intelligent cuts rather than have to make them literally in a matter of days which would probably mean that readiness more than anything else would be cut out of the defense department account. and that's probably the one thing you don't want cut out of it. >> sam stein, you're close and yet so far away over there a
leon panetta has not laid out a plan at all to anybody on the house armed services committee on what exactly is going to get cut, how it gets cut, and how it will move forward. there are very nervous people on the hill tonight regarding that issue. >> the president talking on that tonight, the cuts need to not happen. but the republicans have not laid out anything that looks like a path to avoiding the sequester cuts at least any time soon. ed, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. we'll talk to senator chuck schumer in just a moment about one of the policy items that was not leaked in advance of this speech. and that nobody knew, as far as i know, was coming before this speech was actually delivered tonight, which was the very specific proposal that the federal minimum wage should be raised. that was not something that was a subject of the campaign between president obama and mitt romney, except to the extent that as the president noted tonight, both he and mitt romney agreed that the minimum wage should be indexed to the cost of living. the president noting that severa
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